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Children's cartoons and movies lied to us about the good guys always winning, when in reality it's actually the complete opposite.

How successful you are at life depends on how ruthless you're willing to be.
Successful by what measure? Biologically speaking, once you reproduce, you've been successful. Go find some promiscuous girl to drop your seed into. BOOM! YOU'RE A WINNER!
Wouldn't we just die afterwards like salmon if that was the case? We have to keep living, providing, and making money. You do that by being an a**hole
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Well, that's how the world is. Unless you're religious, you can't possibly believe any of it is inherently good or bad. If you don't like it, maybe try to make yourself like the rules of it or move to a place with different rules.
I looked into it briefly, I wasn't sure if you could do that for reasons other than physical but it seems you can. Would still take a lot of effort (convincing them since I assume they'll have requirements, setting it all up, travelling abroad alone.) And I'd worry about some of my family's feelings about it. Maybe one day though.

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Children's cartoons and movies lied to us about the good guys always winning, when in reality it's actually the complete opposite.

How successful you are at life depends on how ruthless you're willing to be.
Funnily enough, doing what needs to be done is both required and against the law at the same time.

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Children's cartoons and movies lied to us about the good guys always winning, when in reality it's actually the complete opposite.

How successful you are at life depends on how ruthless you're willing to be.
Funnily enough, doing what needs to be done is both required and against the law at the same time. <a href="http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" >:-)</a>
Haha, that is so true. When something really needs to get done, rules and regulations can f**k all the way off.
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Funnily enough, doing what needs to be done is both required and against the law at the same time.
That has always fascinated me. It's like we live in this society where if you do everything "right" you most likely will be miserable and get nowhere.
One could make the case that the millennials suffer with this on a large scale because they are the compliant generation yet they are mostly miserable.
However step too far out of compliance and you will most likely suffer consequences.
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I believe in God. I believe that Jesus died for our sins but since this world was made from sin to begin with, we die. Now, since we’re all given free will, anything goes. Children die, countries get destroyed, people rape others, kill others etc. it’s free will so you can’t say “How can God let this happen?”

I think we’re all just perverted people living in a warped preconception of what we think the world should be and how we should be. We don’t get to know where we started from and why we’re all here so we just wing it and fall into this social cycle. That’s why so many of us are lost.



I've been seeking happiness for years.
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I've spent so many hours in question.
I've prayed that God finds me soon.
Only to realize I must find myself.
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Contrapoints is a great channel. That's all I can add to this discussion.
Nope. Only if you care about something appearing intellectual via verbosity and not the actual point and substance.


@Persephone The Dread Are you trolling? If not then what happened because that's not how I remember you?

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Blah-blah-blah it's just how the world is. Women are naturally inferiour, naturally care about being subjugated to men and all that makeup and looking like a porn star stuff (it's not that they were socialized to be this way, the culture is this way, this is what men want them to be, most of them don't know the book called ''The Second Sex'' exists, never read it or/and are brainwashed by mainsteam feminism that turns things upside down), the hierarchies are natural (remember the lobsters), children are spoiled brats and should be taught discipline, these little varmints and sporges just want to suck the energy from their parents, but they should be born nethertheless and abortion should be outlawed and all the women should be encouraged to birth more children while their clock is ticking, but preferably in their 18- early and mid 20's, rich people are rich because they're smarter, poor people are genetically intellectually inferior and are basically biological trash (the last extreme-sounding part is what's implied, but not said becase ~political correctness~ ~being subtle~) (and if I'm poor or socially anxious or somethng like that myself then I'm a biological trash and that's fair or women should be enforced to have sex and/or relationship with me and others like me). Stop behaving like a victim, you needed repressive father figure/mother as a child and you didn't have it (unlike me) that's why you're such a pathetic whiny me-me-me self-proclaimed victim (unlike me who sucks it up).


(This was my lame, half-assed attempt to troll as well as to impersonate many of the predictable responses)

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Nope. Only if you care about something appearing intellectual via verbosity and not the actual point and substance.
I generally agree with her leftist point of view on that channel, that's all.
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Nope. Only if you care about something appearing intellectual via verbosity and not the actual point and substance.


@Persephone The Dread Are you trolling? If not then what happened because that's not how I remember you?
Trolling about what? Contrapoints?

Uh I have written extensive rants on some of the stuff she's said in recent videos, but I'm not sure it's worth quoting. I'll try to break it down though.

Firstly I'd have to point out that due to the way she structures her videos it makes it very difficult to know what is a joke, and what is her actual opinion but since she does tweet a bit about stuff, and I've seen some clarifications from her before...

So I'm not a fan of the 'gender = performance' viewpoint that she seems to subscribe to (in the aesthetic, and the pronoun video. I basically agree with the character Tabby in The Aesthetic video, but Contrapoints views are more like Justine's although she moved away from that I think in the latest video? The transtrender one. But it's hard to say, I think in terms of what she believes deep down she still believes/promotes that.)

I feel like her gender critical video was weak and needlessly inflammatory for a debate video (I get that it was mostly an excuse to rant at the terfs in reality, but then why dress it up and pretend it's something more? Tbh it might be more her fans that annoy me when it comes to that because they act like everything she does is amazing and.. I talked to people about the video who hold GC viewpoints and they felt she hadn't addressed their primary concerns at all.)

Also she is autogynephilic, and explains how she is in one video (she also jokes about it a lot, but her actual history is stereotypically autogynephilic) while claiming to debunk it. I understand completely why transpeople do this although I think it makes less sense than ever now since most of the community has moved away from neurological explanations for transgenderism or the wrong body argument (including the narratives she seems to subscribe to.) I mean even transmedcalists about 70% of the time fixate on dysphoria/some kind of bodymap thing and not overall brain gender now (there are popular exceptions, but most of the people I come across who are part of that don't tend to focus on that much.)

But obviously there's the whole paraphilia = icky and politically incorrect thing, even though there are both autogynephilic and masculine afabs (though I realise everyone including sexologists ignore the former group... And I also recently have realised it's not particularly useful in the long run to use ciswomen as some kind of benchmark for validity, but seeing as a lot of people do...) Gender critical feminists really need to get over the autogynephilia thing though imo, they really don't understand it and actually a lot of people don't.

But I find Contrapoint's video damaging because I know autogynephilic transsexuals who are basically trying to be open but keep getting yelled at on social media about how they can't be autogynephilic and should come up with a different word to describe themselves, or they can't be trans because they're autogynephilic (neither of which I personally believe to be true.) And her video doesn't debunk autogynephilia at all but now everyone links it because she's a popular YouTuber. The dumb thing is I know someone who is out to people in real life as autogynephilic, and everyone they know that has no attachment to the trans movement is actually accepting of them.

Also here are some thoughts I had tangentially related to parts of her last video (but this post isn't just about her/the video):

https://www.socialanxietysupport.com...-post1045.html

(I'd have to put in more time/write a longer post to address everything, but I can't do that right now, not really satisfied with this post but whatever.)

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Nobody said anything like that as far as I remember lol.

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Children's cartoons and movies lied to us about the good guys always winning, when in reality it's actually the complete opposite.

How successful you are at life depends on how ruthless you're willing to be.
The first thing I thought of when I saw this was Lion King. Lions and hyenas don't operate as compassionate, sapient beings

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Yeah, I'm in the same place right now, probably worse because of the institutionalized, legal sexism that's directly limiting my life prospects right now, tearing away what slim chances I had of setting up something resembling a mediocre existence. Just utterly disgusted and disillusioned, including at myself for accepting all this inexcusable **** as ''normal'' until a few years ago.

The silver lining for me is that all the factionalism, the unchecked corporate greed, the callous self-interest of those able to affect change, are going to lead to an extinction event soon enough. Too bad I likely won't be around to savor it. And I doubt it's going to be thorough enough to prevent history from repeating itself.
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Why this world disgusts me.

I probably have more thoughts than this, but just to start with. Maybe I'll comment with more later if something comes to mind.

I think I'll just link this video to start with because I see her attitude reflected in many women, especially transwomen since I know quite a few + guys who want to be hot women (so this sums up part 1):

So speaking bluntly we have a society that turns women (and certain others,) into useless plastic dolls, so they can enjoy their subjugation by horny guys who just want a **** toy.

I wonder this too. I wonder why cis women (I hope I use the right term) also bite this concept. There is some great books about how women are created via movies etc. Settled them into a little woman box and said how to be a woman and what kind of women are acceptable in our society.
I would want to meet a hardcore feminist which is actually a transwoman. Who choosed to be feminist woman who represents the freedom of women to be what they want to and fights for that .

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I believe in God. I believe that Jesus died for our sins but since this world was made from sin to begin with, we die. Now, since we’re all given free will, anything goes. Children die, countries get destroyed, people rape others, kill others etc. it’s free will so you can’t say “How can God let this happen?”

I think we’re all just perverted people living in a warped preconception of what we think the world should be and how we should be. We don’t get to know where we started from and why we’re all here so we just wing it and fall into this social cycle. That’s why so many of us are lost.
What if some people without god wants to be nice and loving? They want to nurture people and nature and animas and take care of each other and make everyhting better? Which group you choose to belong to? Destroyers or saviours? It is not about what others chooses or does but what you choose and do.

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What if some people without god wants to be nice and loving? They want to nurture people and nature and animas and take care of each other and make everyhting better? Which group you choose to belong to? Destroyers or saviours? It is not about what others chooses or does but what you choose and do.
There are plenty good people who don’t know God which is sad. I’m no expert and I’m not one to speak about the Bible but you need to believe and put your faith in Jesus. Read the Bible and follow his commandments. Some sources say that those who never believed in Jesus and the holy trinity will be judged according to their works instead of their faith but again, who am I to say if that’s true or not?



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That is the biggest lie ever. You need to get out into the world more often and then you’ll see how cruel and relentless this world is.



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